Pie in the Sky



I am firmly in favour of abolishing the House of Lords and have been for as long as I can remember having a view about democratic politics.

But if you ask me, Ed Milband's latest pledge about getting rid of all the 'noble' lords and ladies in the Palace of Westminster (800 or so of them) is just so much political pie in the sky.

Because the Labour Party couldn't summon up the political will to abolish the House of Lords in the thirteen years the party was in power at Westminster from 1997 - 2010, with an overall majority of MPs of course.

So just how is Ed Miliband likely to pull this off in 2015 when the likeliest result of the next general election is another hung parliament?   

Labour 'would abolish House of Lords and replace it with elected senate'

Ed Miliband is to argue an elected house would be more representative

By LIZZIE DEARDEN  - The Independent

Labour wants to abolish the House of Lords and replace it with a US-style elected senate if it wins the general election.

Ed Miliband is expected to set out the plans later today at his party’s North West regional conference in Blackpool.

In the wake of calls for decentralisation of power from Westminster in the wake of the Scottish independence referendum, the Labour leader will propose that the senators represent Britain’s regions and nations rather than Parliamentary constituencies.

He will tell the conference that the current system “fails to represent large parts of the UK” and Labour’s proposals would give all parts of the country a voice.

“When people say that they are turned off from politics and that it doesn’t represent them, we have to do something about it,” he is expected to say.

“It cannot be right that the North West has almost the same population as London but only a small fraction of London’s number of peers.

The House of Lords would be abolished under a Labour Government“London is our capital and one of the world’s great cities but it cannot be right London has more members of the House of Lords than the East Midlands, West Midlands, Wales, Northern Ireland, the North East and Yorkshire and Humber added together.

“And it cannot be right that those peers who do live outside London are less likely to be from great cities like Birmingham, Liverpool and Bristol than they are to be living in less-populated rural areas.

“We will make the second chamber of Parliament truly a senate of the regions and nations of our whole country.”

A senate would act as an upper house of Parliament, examining legislation proposed by the Commons like the House of Lords does currently.

Despite reform in the Lords through the 1990s and 2000s, MPs have struggled for decades to agree how hereditary peers should be replaced.

The three main parties have disagreed over how the House of Lords should be reformedThere has also been continued controversy over overcrowding, accountability and the “cash for influence” scandal.

Labour has floated the idea of a senate before and the Liberal Democrats have previously called for the reform.

The Coalition Government also drafted a House of Lords Reform Bill backed by Nick Clegg, proposing mostly elected members, but dropped it in 2012 following opposition within the Conservative Party.

Mr Miliband’s latest move is part of a wider effort by his party to devolve power from Westminster and stop disillusioned voters moving to Ukip.

“Only when every part of our country has a voice at the heart of our politics can we be sure that our country is run for all and not just for some,” he will say.

The Labour leader has already said he would like a “constitutional convention” after the elections to discuss devolution plans for England.

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